tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8508419.post7396734817761760836..comments2024-03-28T07:54:08.588-04:00Comments on Are We Lumberjacks?: Who Is to Blame?lumberjackhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00526686322561961481noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8508419.post-20641478588875644932012-11-16T08:50:11.775-05:002012-11-16T08:50:11.775-05:00the 'smart move' is what takes place in my...the 'smart move' is what takes place in my shop... and is taking place with myslef.<br /><br />factory wages dont pay anymore. there is no middle class based on manufacturing. this wasnt the case just 10-15 yrs ago. the past 10 yrs, have seen the squeeze on us, and the last 5 more so than that.<br /><br />trust me: those hostess guys have already been sqeezed, like the rest of us. they are at that point righ now that unemployment/disability/welfare pays almost as much as labor does.<br /><br />i know this. it is where i (and other production workers) am at as well. Ginohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09606046924332159076noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8508419.post-32285304561699057162012-11-15T23:51:56.928-05:002012-11-15T23:51:56.928-05:00I suppose I shouldn't assume, but I remember t...I suppose I shouldn't assume, but I remember they were had pretty desirable jobs a dozen years back when they were called Interstate Bakeries. (not for me, I'd be lost outside the forest, but I had a friend looking into it) <br /><br />Anyway, even if the pay is not great, it's still pay. It's still a job. And the company is going under. <br /><br />My union experience was with IAM and I was embarrassed at how they would threaten strikes at the drop of a hat. "The coffee machine is broken, we cannot and will not work under these oppressive conditions!"<br /><br />The smart move for an individual would be to continue the job but be looking elsewhere. lumberjackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00526686322561961481noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8508419.post-36698633156872620172012-11-15T21:39:20.784-05:002012-11-15T21:39:20.784-05:00where does it say the union is highly paid? i work...where does it say the union is highly paid? i work in a unionised production shop, too.<br /><br />you'd be surprised how far the pay will NOT go, and then told to accept a cut every year to keep the job.<br /><br />hostess would be more profitable if they opneed bakeries in mexico, like nabisco and hershey does. why? because mexico doesnt tax the hell out of sugar, their most important ingredient, in order to prop up a small democrat state.<br /><br />look at yer hershey bar, see if it says 'made in USA'. it dont because it isnt.Ginohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09606046924332159076noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8508419.post-79347513560458828292012-11-15T21:05:38.167-05:002012-11-15T21:05:38.167-05:00I've always been fortunate enough to get bough...I've always been fortunate enough to get bought out of my job and benefits BEFORE the filing for bankruptcy happened. Well at least twice. <br /><br />Both cases ironically involved different iterations of the same company and less than ironically the same stupid union.<br /><br />Although in both these cases concessions by the unionists would not have saved their contracts there were plenty of stooges left with paws stuck in empty coconuts.OMMAGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05475151103850378778noreply@blogger.com